CCDL Inc Meeting minutes      October 13, 2009


19:03 Meeting called to order with the Pledge of Allegiance

19:05 Introductions – Existing, New members (Greg, Adam, Eric, Jeff).

19:05 Reading of the presidents report (Scott)

Cards distributed to some shops

National 2nd amendment march information

NH Register article published

Network for change – Rocky Hill (Wednesday 14th)

Mid-month Ad-hoc meeting (Bylaws)

Trademark filed with the secretary of state.

Comments?  None.

19:06 VP – no VP currently

19:06 Secretary’s report (Robert)

As printed, one addition of Justin to the attendees list.

19:07 MTA Ed/Justin

19:08 Treasurers report (Jay)

Books will be closed out quarterly from now on

Spent $300 on shirts, 60 left sold several during the meeting

MTA Ed/Justin

19:09 Registered Agent (Ira for Susan) Nothing to report

19:10 Webmasters report ( Virginia )

Website moved to paid up for 2 years

Mass emails have been arranged.

Drop down menu’s are available for more content.

Ed asked about a message board.

19:11 MTA Ed/Steve

Discussion – Keeping of forum in’s CT area for wider coverage.


19:12 Open Forum

Chad T from West Hartford discussed his issues with West Hartford ’s permitting process

Interview, stated open carry illegal, wanted him to sign an overly broad waiver – he refused, they refused to accept the application without the waiver, looking for potential methods around it including litigation.

Steve mentioned they were getting around not denying the permit by not accepting the application in the first place.

He also mentioned the W.H. Police chief is very anti-gun, anti rifle, allowed the police range to do the testing for the Lizotte/Horowitz microstamping bill.


Ed Peruta discussed newsworthy items

  1. Chili’s case

James Goldberg now employed by Hoffmans.

DPS3 issues, went to see Sgt Doug Hall

Computer generated letters in error, supposed to only go to dealers

How many letters were sent?

How many bad authorization numbers issued?

When were all these issues found?

Were public records lost?

Proof of fax of forms to DPS that they claim were not received.

Write a letter to the Lieutenant, they say ask Legal Affairs about it

Money Raiser - CCDL Trophy for a quarterly shooting competition at Hoffmans range

Jack Goldberg to put in an admin request for a declaratory ruling.

Sept 28th Ed delivered copies of each to various departments.


  1. Ed delivered 16 questions.

Audio of discussion of issues on linked to from ocdo.

DPS agreed to answer 3 of the 16 questions.

Question 3 During initial application process does applicant have to submit any additional info other than DPS799, Safety certificate, DD214 (military), and payment and fingerprint cards?

Art Carr said they have been trying to get this taken care of in the legislature for 4 years.

Lenny resent properly worded question to DPS.

Regarding the new DPS-799C form

Coradino is going to answer the questions asked by Ed

Case on the docket Oct 22, Waterbury , Kevin Johnson

Board of Firearm Permit Examiners is thinking of taking their show on the road and hold meetings in town departments around the state to show the local PD’s their view on issues.

Local media seems now to be interested in 2nd amendment issues.

DPS3 letters – recommend to call DPS and cancel the auth numbers

DPS799C New form online.  Changes include

$50 fees (new) and double permit fee

Statutes – Applicant must submit to a state and national records check submitted by local agency.

Can’t charge a local agency for record check

SPBI State Police Bureau of Intelligence – Cindy put in $50 fee


NRA Long Island conference update

2nd Circuit Court of Appeals update (Kuck Goldberg)

Judges Strob, Parker, and Livingston.

CT Assistant AG questioned, claimed Spinelli V NY didn’t apply to this case

Judge Strob pointed at AGA “this court ruled that 2 months is too long, how do you justify 19?”  says “Is it true that you can open carry a handgun in CT”  AGA danced around without answering (twice).

Judge Parker said “Stop, I’m still waiting for you to answer his question”

Judge Livingston “plaintiffs have alleged that there is more than just delays going on in the state firearms unit (skullduggery)”

DPS lawyers (Hall and Hatfield) have to type a report to the higher levels.

Ed is going to San Diego to fight a permit denial there

Money issues for CCDL – Voluntary donations

Boiler plate comments to the editor for any gun/shooting story in the paper

2nd Amendment friendly comment for every gun story


19:46 Ed Rests.

Two new members Oriane A Fairfield and Jeff P from Meriden

19:47 Adam Peplau discussed:

Secretary of Friends of NRA in Danbury

Certified Firearms Instructor

Tea Party in Bridgeport organizer

Running for City Council position in Bridgeport

CCDL cards to firearms manufacturers for firearms cases going to CT dealers

Gun Rights Radio Network podcasts.

Walmart (Orange? Milford ?) posting bogus made up “federal” laws on ammo sales.

Ammo shortage issues.

NRA instructor – listed on the page, offering 2 students for $150 for permit classes.


19:57 Break


20:20 back to order - Old business

Bylaws read and approved

Placards and cards distributed among some members for distribution

Weblinks to attorneys

Open Carry support clause tabled

Fundraiser tabled

Events coordinator

October meeting Nominations, November meeting Elections

Proposed Agenda – New business

Proposal to support adhoc for 2nd amendment march

Kevin Holian coordinating the CT 2nd amendment march

CCDL doing what it can to help all gun owners

List of activities to go around for 2nd amendment march (passed around)

Ken Blanchard podcast, Hotel floor in DC for marchers, BBQ next day per Adam.

Steve L asked about United States Supreme Court case regarding 2A incorporation

20:29 Adam suggested town/area subchapters of CCDL

People need to get involved, Scott discussed his thoughts on what we as a group should be doing.

20:35 Scott turned over the meeting to Justin

discussed the bylaws and how we need to follow them per our constitution


Section 2 art 6

2nd to last meeting of year for Executive Board Positions

Executive membership comprised of 2 classes

Resolution 1 Exec membership

11 founding members (from Hops (February) and close by)

Jay, Scott, Robert, Lenny , Virginia , Justin, Ira, Susan, Kevin, Nick, Marcie

Exec member 12 and on are for contributions and working in the organization.

Resolution 2 CCDL election procedures

Elect President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer

Nominations, Oct 13th  2009 , Elections November 10th  2009

Pre-election discussions 2 minutes to present and answer questions, candidates for the same positions are sequestered during the other candidates question time.

Exec members cast paper ballots

Election process for President, Vice President, Secretary and Treasurer

Incoming president will nominate 5 positions as coordinators.

Membership, Events, Legislative Advocacy, Public Relations, Webmaster



For President, Scott nominated by Lenny (Scott accepts)

For Vice President, Lenny nominated by Ira (Lenny accepts)

For Treasurer Jay, nominated by Ken/Steve (Jay accepts)

For Secretary, Robert, nominated by Cheryl/Steve (Robert accepts)

For Secretary, Justin, nominated by Lenny/Cheryl

Discussion, Robert withdraws acceptance for secretary


Other discussion:

Cheryl asked for job descriptions for committee positions


Presidents duties defined (A-I)

VP duties defined (A-C)

Treasurer duties defined (A-D)

Secretary duties defined (A-D)


Coordinator positions

Membership (A-F)

Events (A-H)


Ira mentioned that the founding documents are not distributed online or on paper but exist to be viewed by members.


Legislative Advocate (A-D)

Public Relations (A-I)

Webmaster – Maintains website

Committee Chairs to nominate volunteers to assist with various tasks


21:00 Call for donations

21:00 Lenny discussed CCDL magnets for cars

21:01 meeting closed.