25 thoughts on “Governor Boughton?

  1. There are enough Republican gun owners in this state to definitely be the “fly in the ointment” during the primaries. We should only vote for / support those candidates who aren’t afraid to speak of their pro gun positions. McKinney is definitely out of there. Same with Boucher. Kind of early to tell about Boughton & Lauretti. Foley may be the best choice for us. Have to wait & see. Email their websites & try to find more info.

  2. I had a conversation with Mr. Boughton on this topic. He does favor expanded background checks so that ‘people like Adam Lanza cannot get a gun’. He overlooks the fact that the guns Adam Lanza used were not his own. This also implies a willingness to bend the 4th amendment. I interpret Mr. Boughton to be an OathBreaker in the making, believing the constitution is a living document (they didn’t have rocket launchers in the 18th century). His stance is problematic for any constitutional supporter because the implications go beyond 2A infringements.

    • I agree with your position 100%.

      There is a photo making the rounds on the internet, of some sort of rotating barrel large bore firearm, patented BEFORE the Constitution was written. They may not have had rocket launchers, but this would have done the trick.

  3. It looks to me like he is playing for the wrong team and contradicting himself to get support. I have a hard time believing him. My vote will go elsewhere. Joe Visconti is my choice.

  4. The primary issue here is who can beat Malloy! Visconti can’t do it. People have to get realistic if we want any chance tobeat Malloy and the only candidate who can is McKinney. We have to realize, coming from Newtown he has to support his constituents and I happen to know that he is more that willing to make a declaration that there will be no further infringements on our constitutional rights. My biggest goal is to get rid of Malloy absolutely. People have to open there minds and recognize the position he was in. Furthermore if he chooses as his running mate Penny Bacchiochi, who was an outspoken proponent of the gun bill and voted against it that also says alot about his willingness to open a dialog with important gun people. We have to win this election and he is very likely going to be the Republican nominee. So who are you going to vote for if that happens? Malloy? Sorry but Visconti isn’t even on the radar guys!!!!!! And Boughton can forget it!

    • Sorry, but no. Mckinney makes Boughton actually sound GOOD on guns. What’s the difference from a gun control standpoint between the guy who signed the law and the guy who helped write it? NONE. McKinney is actually worse then Malloy, because it was expected Malloy would support this law. John McKinney went against his (Republican) party platform with his support.

      We uphold the right of individuals to keep and bear arms, a right which antedated the Constitution and was solemnly confirmed by the Second Amendment. We acknowledge, support, and defend the law-abiding citizen’s God-given right of self-defense. We call for the protection of such fundamental individual rights recognized in the Supreme Court’s decisions in District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago affirming that right, and we recognize the individual responsibility to safely use and store firearms. This also includes the right to obtain and store ammunition without registration. We support the fundamental right to self-defense wherever a law-abiding citizen has a legal right to be, and we support federal legislation that would expand the exercise of that right by allowing those with state-issued carry permits to carry firearms in any state that issues such permits to its own residents. Gun ownership is responsible citizenship, enabling Americans to defend their homes and communities. We condemn frivolous lawsuits against gun manufacturers and oppose federal licensing or registration of law-abiding gun owners. We oppose legislation that is intended to restrict our Second Amendment rights by limiting the capacity of clips or magazines or otherwise restoring the ill-considered Clinton gun ban. We condemn the reckless actions associated with the operation known as “Fast and Furious,” conducted by the Department of Justice, which resulted in the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent and others on both sides of the border. We applaud the Members of the U.S. House of Representatives in holding the current Administration’s Attorney General in contempt of Congress for his refusal to cooperate with their investigation into that debacle. We oppose the improper collection of firearms sales information in the four southern border states, which was imposed without congressional authority.

      http://www.gop.com/2012-republican-platform_We/#Item10

  5. Are you people kidding? He represented Newtown, what did you expect him to do? I am a lifelong democrat and for the first time in my life I will be crossing the line to the Republican party because although you seem to want to sing the praises of Malloy the gun bill is really the least of the damage he’s done to this state. You apparently don’t know the half of what he has done to the economy and the workers of this state. He’s a nightmare. But you go ahead and vote for Malloy. Let me remind you, if McKinney gets the nomination it will be from the REPUBLICAN party you seem to want to call him the betrayer of. You would rather he betrayed 20 dead children and their parents and their
    town. He didn’t have much of a choice. I would defy you to be in his position and do any differently. That’s just plain ignorance.

    • He absolutely did have a choice. A sick individual killed those people. You do NOT violate your oath to protect and defend the constitution because of the the actions of a deranged individual. He should have located his balls and voted no.

    • Laurie, first off CCDL is a single issue organization. We focus solely on gun rights. While jobs and the economy are important too, there are other groups working on that. Here it’s only and all about firearms.

      You say if McKinney didn’t write and support the anti-gun laws, he would have been betraying the people murdered at Sandy Hook? REALLY?
      Please tell us how banning certain guns based purely on cosmetic features would have prevented that from happening? Please tell us how limiting magazine capacity would have prevented it?

      While I was not in McKinneys position, someone else was.
      Dan Carter, who is the State Representative for Newtown (ie, the House counterpart to McKinney’s Senate position) did NOT violate his oath of office, or the GOP party platform by crafting and supporting legislation that went against it. Even though he also represents Newtown, He, like John McKinney, DID have a choice. He could either follow the Constitution, the party platform, and his oath of office, or he could violate those and pander to the Democrats in his district. Dan Carter picked the former, John McKinney went with the latter.

      And that is why whether you like it or not, John McKinney has no chance of becoming Governor, at least not on the Republican ticket. There were more people voters affected by McKinney’s anti-gun law then there are active registered Republicans.

  6. Well thank you Chris for a rational well formulated argument. This is what I am looking for. I am well aware of the impact on every permitted person in this state and currently unpermitted. I am one of them. As I said before I am and always have been a democrat. I appreciate your schooling me on the purpose of your blog and that it is exclusive to the gun rights issue because that is what I came here for. I am not a republican. I came looking for rational, unemotional guidance and so far, until today I haven’t heard much other than emotional reactionary tripe. This issue was the tipping point for me to do something I would never have believed possible in my lifetime. It is the primary reason for me to vote republican. I want Malloy out whatever it takes. If it takes voting for Boughton or McKinney I am going to do it. And that goes for every other democrat running for office. I am embarrassed to say I voted for Malloy. I believe, whoever the nominee ends up being,that this is the greatest opportunity afforded to our gun rights leaders to get in on the ground floor and open up a dialog with whoever it’s going to be. If they don’t avail themselves of this opportunity then we have no chance at all. I came to this site looking for leadership and advisement. I will continue to follow your blog and hope to see continued rational and realistic discussion develop. I thank everybody for whatever helpful information they can provide. One thing I don;t need is schooling on the 2nd amendment.I studied constitutional and in my humble opinion, regardless of what they say, this was an attack on our constitutional rights, period. I am grateful to know the Coalition is part of the constitutional in court. Please continue to do what you do and I will follow the rational dialog on your blog. Thank you Chris.

  7. By the way, maybe a good place to start vetting these candidates is to find out where they stood on gun control before Newtown. That is who they are. You and I both know what a tragedy Newtown was and it forced a reactionary response. I would like not to see another one. Also, in case you don’t how legislature begins, law is not written by the legislators. It is written by lobbyists. Legislators just put their signature on it. Just saying, not that it makes a whole lot of difference to people on this blog. Thanks again Chris.

  8. Linda, you hit the nail on the head, this is a mental health issue. That is the direction the legislature should have gone in with this law. I have a permit. Nothing in this law affects me but I recognize the danger in any effort to whittle away at the right to bear arms. I have no need for a large round capacity magazine nor an assault rifle. It doesn’t matter, I still think it is very dangerous when they put into law anything that restricts law abiding citizens from exercising there constitutional rights. I want everyone to understand we are on the same side here but reality tells me one of these candidates is going to get the nomination, That is a certainty. Now what?

    • Laurie, we do try to stick to the facts and leave the hysterics to the antigunners. If you may, I’d like to also point out that CCDL is nonpartisan. Gun rights are not really a Democrat/Republican thing. You yourself sound like a perfect example, so please don’t paint all other Democrats with the antigun brush, and all Republicans do not support your gun rights (McKinney for example). As an organization we really aren’t interested in your party affiliation; only your views on gun rights.We’ll take a progun Democrat such as yourself over an antigun Republican any day.

      Also while you think you may not have need of an “assault rifle”, that’s really not what was banned here. The new definition of banned “assault weapons” is so broad that many common handguns such as the .22 caliber 10 round Walther P22 are now classified as assault weapons because they have a threaded barrel. Also, I’d like to point out that while you might now have no need for say an AR-15, they are in fact very well suited for older people, weaker people, and disabled people. They are light in weight, and very low in recoil. The adjustable stock length lets it fit smaller shooters properly, and the pistol grip and forward grip help people who might not have a lot of strength in their hands. It’s modular system lets it be easily adapted to shooters with various disabilities. It’s also highly effective for self-defense which is why so many police now carry one whenever possible. You might not need more then 10 rounds since you can easily change mags, but what about the professional woman with only one arm (one of the defendants in our lawsuit). Changing mags with only one are is not fast or easy. She is essentially limited to the rounds loaded in her gun.

  9. a dirty little secret that Malloy, Boughton and the rest of the gun banners do not want to admit, the registration law succeeded in ADDING felons to CT. When the first registration, back in the 90s happened, CSP estimated that about 25% of the affected semiautomatic rifles were registered. Too early to tell this time, but that line in Middletown, while very long, was in reality way too short. malloy did not get what he wanted for Christmas.

  10. This law, and its predecessor ban semiautomatic rifles, that trough feeders define. The description is purely political, with no basis in fact or reality. Right now, in CT, there is one manufacturer I know of, that is considering leaving CT. The decision hinges upon whether or not his R&D people can design manufacture a semiautomatic rifle that meets the current political definition.

    PLEASE do not use the terminology of the control crowd. Police call them duty rifles; personally, I like that term.

    Soapbox being put away.

  11. Chris, perhaps you misunderstand me. I know gun rights are a nonpartisan issue. Most of my gun toting friends are democrats but it is my belief that this law was pushed through in a big hurry by democrats. That is the only reason I am willing to change affiliation. The only politicians I have heard openly opposing this bill are republicans, Vincent Candelora and Penny Bacchiochi for two of them. They were and still are very outspoken on their opposition to this bill. That is my reason for crossing the line. Otherwise I agree with you totally, people of every affiliation own guns. Also, I not long ago sold a Walther P22 that did not have a threaded barrel.The threaded barrel aspect of the law was not new, that existed in the old law. Which annoyed me then because there are noise buffer attachments I would have purchased if I could. As far as the AR15 I have to agree with you that might have been a gun I would have had an interest in. I also had considered large round magazines for convenience but not out of necessity for myself. I am of the belief that I should be able to stop anyone with 10 rounds but I shoot regularly and I get that this may not be everyone’s habit. I am very sympathetic to the disabled woman’s situation and I have seen other woman interviewed on television who were not disabled who just liked the convenience of the 25 round magazines. That is why I would have liked one. My comment was just to say that I can live with what I have so I am not directly impacted but I wholeheartedly support the fact that that may not be the case for everyone. That is why we are on the same team. Thanks again Chris.

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